DW GeoMaster Hub Knuckles

[Jord]

I'm pretty sure they have been around in Japan/US for a while now?

Pretty massive leap in development IMO, awesome job guys! Can't wait until i can afford some of these!

I know you can get modified front knuckles from the likes of GPSports with altered tie-rod pick up points. However the full geometry changes that the DW Hubs bring front and rear is a first I'm sure.

[kam]

I know you can get modified front knuckles from the likes of GPSports with altered tie-rod pick up points. However the full geometry changes that the DW Hubs bring front and rear is a first I'm sure.

Ah ok, yeah the stub axle being dropped is the big bit

[piman2k]

Those. Are. Awesome.

[200krisx]

Any weight advantage over the standard hub carriers?

Also interested in this question

[mandelbug]

Those. Are. Awesome.

Indeed! Congrats DW team,

[Fordy]

Here's a pic of the Driftworks Offset Rack Spacers by the way
Excuse the photo quality, it's taken with my phone.

have these been released yet? just looked on the shop and cant see anything in the steering section

[TomK]

It says in the advert the rack spacers aren't out till mid january 2010.

These are gorgeous, just a shame so much messing about is needed to make them fit an s13.

[Anth4130]

It's not that much work to fit them to an s13 really, esp if you're already 5 stud

I think these will be something I will be investing in the future

[PhilMorrison]

These are gorgeous, just a shame so much messing about is needed to make them fit an s13.

We recognise that it is a bit of a pain. So we will be looking into making them specifically for the S13 four stud, as well as Skylines, and maybe some other marques too.

[zeppelin101]

That is stupendously cool. I'd add it to my list if the numbers on it weren't already making my eyes water

[Aj82]

Im seriously considering these. Group buy anyone? lol

Anyone need four standard s14a hubs? hehe.

Cheers Aj

[PhilMorrison]

They seem like an awesome product for serious cars... Shame my old 13 is still on 4 stud hubs

Any weight advantage over the standard hub carriers?

I haven't weighed the standard items. I'll have a look into it

[merijndj]

@Phil: FYI: the balljoints to fit S14 hubs onto a S13 is the: Moog K9820

[ex-ctr]

very intresting, so i would need new track rod ends and spacers, how much all in

[TomK]

very intresting, so i would need new track rod ends and spacers, how much all in

Good question, and perhaps for the s13 owners you could do a package price with your adjustable lower arms with the correct ball joints in. That way all they'd have to worry about is changing to 5 stud, which most people wont mind, and drilling out their shock strut, which shouldnt be too challenging, even for the bodgers like myself.

[Aj82]

Bump for info of all in price.


Cheers Aj

[PhilMorrison]

very intresting, so i would need new track rod ends and spacers, how much all in

Check out the notes in the shop advert. All info is there You don't need new track rods and ends if you wait until our offset spacers are available in January, (although having stonger Tein rods and ends is recommended). If you don't want to use our offset spacers you will need to source/make longer track rods or ends, which we can't help with.

Good question, and perhaps for the s13 owners you could do a package price with your adjustable lower arms with the correct ball joints in. That way all they'd have to worry about is changing to 5 stud, which most people wont mind, and drilling out their shock strut, which shouldnt be too challenging, even for the bodgers like myself.

It gets unbelievably complicated if we start doing that, so just pop a set of front lower arms in your basket when purchasing and all is well, as you get S13 and S14 spindles for the ball joints with whatever lower arms you buy

Bump for info of all in price.


Cheers Aj

Adding the item to your basket gives you the shipping cost

[ads.r]

right hoping someone else had asked this lol
im a little confused as to what benefits these have. how do these improve the handling?

[zeppelin101]

how do these improve the handling?

By moving the suspension pick up points on the hub.

The hubs change the height of the mounting points of the suspension arms (on the hub) relative to the subframe. When you lower a car, you move the whole body down but the hubs stay in the same place. This means you alter the roll centre and suspension arm geometry and introduce things like bump steer if the car is very low.

With these hubs, the car is lowered, but the mounting point heights are maintained. So you get the benefits of a lower car, with proper suspension arm geometry which will massively improve handling compared to lowering the car just on coilovers.

The suspension arms remain at the angle they were designed to be at from the factory (or are they improved with these?) so you have a lowered car which won't bump steer and has the correct roll centre. All the suspension arms have the range of movement they were designed to have, and aren't compromised as they are when a car is lowered just with coilovers.

By having the roll centre where it should be, you won't need to run the suspension as stiff to reduce body roll. Body roll is a function of roll centre and centre of gravity. What you do by using these hubs is maintain the roll centre height but get a lower CoG. Benefit is you don't need a bone crushingly hard ride, or very stiff ARBs to have virtually no body roll in a corner.

Well worth the money imo, unless you can manufacture your own with some spare time and testing like some of the guys on here have

[Dave270r]

right hoping someone else had asked this lol
im a little confused as to what benefits these have. how do these improve the handling?

My guess is you didn't read the first post, or follow the link and read the info?

Great product guys