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    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
    Not a bad size that. Your cars on the drawing are a tad small though. A 200sx is about 4.7m long and that will leave you about 600mm each end of the car when it's in there.

    It's looking good though. How much insulation are you packing in there? Insulated floor slab too?
    If he puts the car in close to one end, he'll have over a metre to work with. Also, you are allowing 500mm for the walls each end including the internal wall. I'd have thought 300mm for one end and 150mm for the other would be more like it, no ?

    He's also got an extra metre of work area in the right hand bay.

    My garage is only 5.4m square and I've got room to jack the S13 under the diff with the door shut. I'd kill for another half a metre though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny Wilkinson View Post
    If he puts the car in close to one end, he'll have over a metre to work with. Also, you are allowing 500mm for the walls each end including the internal wall. I'd have thought 300mm for one end and 150mm for the other would be more like it, no ?

    He's also got an extra metre of work area in the right hand bay.

    My garage is only 5.4m square and I've got room to jack the S13 under the diff with the door shut. I'd kill for another half a metre though.
    My quick maths in my head was something like this. I rounded the end dim down as you're never going to park the car bang on against a wall.

    6300mm
    - 140mm Studwork with full fill insulation
    - 12mm Plasterboard? or plywood
    - 25mm Outer wall finish, timber cladding I would guess.
    = 6122mm internally (on the left bay)
    - 4700mm (Nissan 200sx length)
    /2
    = 710mm each end of the car.

    It's a bit bigger than I thought. That's what I'd do if it was in the UK but prob only use 89mm studs. I'm curious as to what the wall build up is considering it's in Finland, I'd assume the wall would be closer to 300mm and packed with loads and loads of insulation. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny Wilkinson View Post
    Is the room at the back a "dirty" room ? ...so you can make sparks and clean things without covering the cars and the other bench ?

    Have you thought out the electrics ? What are you going with ?

    And the doors ? Insulated roller doors ? Up and overs never give a good seal

    I'm interested as I'm just kitting out my double at the moment.
    The room in the back is just a storage room. I have some plans for the electrics, nothing final yet.

    Doors will be roller / sectional doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
    My quick maths in my head was something like this. I rounded the end dim down as you're never going to park the car bang on against a wall.

    6300mm
    - 140mm Studwork with full fill insulation
    - 12mm Plasterboard? or plywood
    - 25mm Outer wall finish, timber cladding I would guess.
    = 6122mm internally (on the left bay)
    - 4700mm (Nissan 200sx length)
    /2
    = 710mm each end of the car.

    It's a bit bigger than I thought. That's what I'd do if it was in the UK but prob only use 89mm studs. I'm curious as to what the wall build up is considering it's in Finland, I'd assume the wall would be closer to 300mm and packed with loads and loads of insulation. .


    It's something like this:
    - 13mm gyproc
    - 150mm Studwork with mineral wool insulation
    - 13mm gyproc
    - Outer wall finish


    As for the floor there will be 2x50mm styrofoam under the concrete. I'll also have electrical underfloor heating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teggers View Post
    Wow - looks nice there I love mountainous/snowy countries. One day I'll move back to one...

    How many cars are you planning on putting in there? Jst the one and you'll have plenty of space to work on it. 2 and things might get a bit tight. More info on the house too please!



    IIRC most of Finland that isn't cliff-face/mountainside or otherwise vertiginous is woodland...
    It's mainly for the S14, but might keep another car in the shorter side of the garage as close to the wall as possible so I'll have as much working space for the Nissan as possible.

    And the other side of the garage has a lot more room to work with anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidder166 View Post
    WoW nice looking garage and some nice looking land there.

    What are the restrictions like for planning permission in Finland? Looks like a woodland area?
    Well there were several restrictions. Mainly for the size of the garage. 60mm² was the maximun size allowed and 7m the max width.

    There sure are lots of wood here This is also groundwater area, so there are several extra restrictions because of the too.

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    Had some time to work on the garage today.

    Here are some pics.

    Sorry for the crap quality, they are taken with my E7...
































    to be continued tomorrow...

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    Better get it up quick before Winter starts to bite

    Press on !

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    Studwork is almost ready

    Roof trusses will be delivered sometime next week, so I should have a roof within couple of weeks














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    Nice. Surprised you didn't make the framework in sections then lift it into place.

    Good watching how fast it goes up isn't it .

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    looking good. You doing all the work yourself or you having contractors doing most of the work?

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    I'm doing all the work with my dad

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    Quote Originally Posted by bahis View Post
    I'm doing all the work with my dad
    makes it oven more impressive then.

    Least you will have piece of mind knowing that no corners have been skipped.

    What sort of heating will you be using for the garage and house?

    Ive always said that if i even build my own place id like to use geo thermal heating for the house and for the garage id like to use a used oil burner

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    I will install electric underfloor heating to the garage and maybe an air source heat pump. For the the house the main heating is electric and there will also be air source heat pump and a baking oven. So I will be heating it mostly by burning wood.

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    Nice work mate

    Of all the projects I've done on my house - the garage was by far the best!!

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    Made some progress this weekend.

    Got all the angle brackets in place for the roof trusses.

    Then made frames for the door and windows. Did the windows first and door last.

    And then I noticed that the windows were 6cm lower than the door




    Apparently I should have measured them from the bottom plate (whatever it's called in english?) , not the concrete, well anyway had to take them apart.




    Fixed:




    Also made second studs around the garage doors and put some wool between the two studs.





    And this is how it stands now:





    And a bonus picture:


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    Oh and someone asked about the house...


    It will be just a basic little house. Won't be building it myself, just did all the groundwork insulation etc..., but the house itself will be built by the company I bought it from.

    It's from a company called Muurametalot. The house model is "Kaijansaari"
    It has 106m² living space.

    These are the pictures from their site. We did some changes, but will be almost like this:




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    That was me Wondered how your houses there compared to the Alpine chalets I used to live in The garage was generally the bottom floor of the chalet with living area above and bedrooms at the top.

    Looks nice though - I'd love something like that but making do with our old farmhouse built in 1850 (or thereabouts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bahis View Post

    Apparently I should have measured them from the bottom plate (whatever it's called in english?) , not the concrete.
    The bottom timber is a sole plate. Usually you fix a sole plate down first then you fix the panelled sections to the sole plate .

    Garage is looking nice .

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    I guess I should update this thread as I have made some progress. Haven't got nearly as much done as I would have liked because of the weather


    The arm in the Hiab wasn't long enough so had to lift the trusses on the roof by hand. Luckily they weight only ~51kg.





    Got them all in place on friday 23.12 and started to work on the supports on saturday.










    On sunday it was snowing so heavily that we decided not to continue, but it stopped over night so started again on monday:









    And then the storm came and almost ruined the rest of the week


    But it did pass before the weekend so I got something done again:










    Have done a bit more, but didn't take pics as it was dark...

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