A stage 3a S14 has at least 60hp and 200kg over a 350Z so go figure
Although, I am currently driving round in a car with 1/3 of the horsepower of my M3 and it hasn't bothered me one bit.
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Good work, looks like a nice one. Remember they arent performance cars though
There not at all slow, the power is very linear and is a world apart from a turbocharged engine. I had a 290hp focus ST before this and the 350 is quicker off the line but maybe the focus has a little more mid range, its hard to tell. Corners are a different matter, I have never had a car that feels so planted in the corners. A real drivers car. To me its the complete package, low down driving position, lovely big engine and RWD all for fiesta money.
Yeah i know mine would be quicker but would it feel like a massive drop, do 350's feel fast or do they just cruise along...quickly
I keep thinking to myself if only people had an owners club for the 350Z to go to, they could have a whale of a time.
If only such a thing existed....
Dont forget this is the 350sxocbmwoc now.....
If all the people who didn't have 200s any more stopped posting and went elsewhere, this board would die a death
But there's only 10 sx owners on here these days. Like Zeppelin says, this site would die off if all those people went elsewhere
Already happenedIf all the people who didn't have 200s any more stopped posting and went elsewhere, this board would die a death
Yes mate, it has - thats why we had 150 odd people turn up for a weekend at Anglesey recently, 30+ going ll the way to Le Mans and Nur every year and have nearly 10,000 likes on Facebook. Id be the first to admit the forum isnt as busy as 3-4 years ago but we still see 15,000 posts a month and have plenty more lurking.
Piman has made his dislike of 350's clear but hes entitled to his opinion the same as others are entitled to theirs, so a thread on 350Z's is just as valid as one on Skylines, MX5's or anything else, if you dont want to see it then go elsewhere - its called the 350Z thread FFS, its not like you stumbled across it by accident
I get the feeling that this would only work if we could pursuade Ernest Borgnine to drive the Isle of Wight to Portsmouth hovercraft.
Really keen on a 350z at the moment for a daily, bored of my TT fancy going back to a non turbo, never driven one, so need to go for a blast in one, fantastic value for money now as well. Not sure how anyone can say they aren't 'sporty'
I don't dislike 350s. I just don't view them as an upgrade.
I think it depends on the spec of the sx and what you want from a car tbh. I like them but wouldn't swap my sx for one as it's just not what i'm afterI'd say it's an upgrade if you're looking at like for like standard models.
1998 Nissan 200sx s14a , 2000 std 5 speed with nismo supercoppermix clutch bn6 Sapphire Blue
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Is that because you compare a stock 350z to a tuned 200SX? I would consider a stock 350z and upgrade from a stock 200SX.
Also, its newer. Newer is always classed as an upgrade. People "upgrade" to new phones, laptops, tablets etc all the time
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Is that because you compare a stock 350z to a tuned 200SX? I would consider a stock 350z and upgrade from a stock 200SX.
Also, its newer. Newer is always classed as an upgrade. People "upgrade" to new phones, laptops, tablets etc all the time
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How can having to buy an Astra 1.4 be an upgrade? Just so it's there every time you need something quite long from B&Q.
Or rent a Polo every time you need 4 seats?
350Z is in the Merc SLK, BMW Z4 market.
S15 with 250bhp very closely matched the early 350Z for performance and came with 2+2 seats and something like a boot that didn't need instructions on how to get 2 sets of golf clubs in. 2001 they had a 276bhp VTEC turbo SR20VET in the X-trail GT that could have gone in the S15.
http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=27291
221 Nm/ton (specific torque) peak torque 4800 rpm, 199 bhp/ton peak power 6400rpm
Wheel base 2.525m, Turning circle 9.8m.
350Z
http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=97130
257 Nm/ton peak torque 4800 rpm, 198 bhp/ton peak power 6200 rpm.
Wheel base 2.65m, Turning circle 11.8m, oops will need a shed load of work just to skid at the same angle as a stock S.
2001 X-trail
http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...ar/?car=108053
engine in S15.
249 Nm/ton peak torque 3200 rpm, 222.6 bhp/ton peak power 6400 rpm.
How can a 2 seater need a 12.5cm/5" longer barge like wheelbase than a 2+2? They "fixed" the 370Z with a 2.55m wheelbase (10cm/4" shorter) and 11m turning circle.
If you made a pure 2 seat based on the S floorpan you could cut about 15cm/6" out of it. Be a bit lively then.
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Quite, a standard 350Z is a better car than a standard S14 in every respect, anyone who says otherwise is an idiot, frankly.
I get the feeling that this would only work if we could pursuade Ernest Borgnine to drive the Isle of Wight to Portsmouth hovercraft.
ZOMG! People in driving-other-cars-and-rating-them shocker!
ZOMG2! Other cars in standard form not as fast as heavily modified 200SX shocker.
So much with the mental. Objectivity is a wonderful thing.
350 will be sitting in my collection when I can afford another fun daily - lovely, well rounded, competent, nice sounding, speedy, nice handling performance bargains.
I'm totally curious to know how the coefficient of drag compares to that of an S-body though?
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It's over 9000*.I'm totally curious to know how the coefficient of drag compares to that of an S-body though?
*This joke may be lost on a lot of people.
Never driven a s14 so cant comment but having had 2 s13s it is indeed every way better.
There a real bargain for what you get, running costs aint to scary either. Actually really frugal on petrol for the size and weight of the car. Insurance is a bargain to!
Anyone who thinks a 350Z isn't fast, doesn't turn well or doesn't drift well needs to go for a passenger ride with Docwra
Doc took me for a drive in his 350z at the weekender and I also went for a passenger ride in another 350z which was there.
Only one word can sum up what I think of them... "Want!!!"
I'd take the 350Z before a S14.
It's got a better CdA
Z34 Cd is 0.3 is decent.It's over 9000*.I'm totally curious to know how the coefficient of drag compares to that of an S-body though?
*This joke may be lost on a lot of people.
RS13 Cd 0.3 with teardrop alloys, 0.31 with spoked alloys.
All the notch back S13/14/14a/15 have CD about 0.33 - 0.34 so are piss poor.
But it's CdA that really counts. Frontal area of 350Z is quite big and fat as it's 25mm taller than all SX. Much wider at 1.816m than RS13 1.69m and S14 1.727m or S15 1.695m. 0.19mē bigger frontal area than the RS13 and 0.15mē bigger than S14. 350Z just squeaks into 2nd.
200SX RS13 5.88 sq ft / 0.55 mē.
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350Z CdA 6.52 sq ft / 0.61mē
200SX S14 CdA 6.7 sq ft / 0.62mē
370Z is way better than a 350Z. As a stop gap while for waiting for prices of 370Z to come down a 350Z has to be the choice but it is a 2nd choice.
US market would never stand for a jumped up 200SX. 200/240SX in USA is a "College Kid" car.
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